Friday, 10 February 2012

Guinness Double Brown Stout Porter

Given up my Scottish theme? Not a chance, as you'll see when you get a bit further.

Guinness Double Brown Stout Porter. There's a name that rolls easily off the tongue. No wonder they shortened it to Extra Stout. Here it is, with a misspelling that was to be repeated thousands of times over the years:

Carlisle Journal - Saturday 02 April 1836. page 1.

That's pretty early for Guinness in England. And confirmation - if any were needed - that Guinness Extra Stout was once called Stout Porter. That should help settle a few arguments.

Then there's the Scottish connection. McNellan, that's what later became Calder. The Shore Brewery, in both cases, was the names of the premises. But look at what they're selling: Pale Alloa Ale. It would be easy to jump to the conclusion that it was a Pale Ale. But I'd be more cautious. Just as likely it was a pale-coloured Alloa Ale, that is a strong Scotch Ale. I'd incline towards the latter as 1836 is early for a Pale Ale.

I had another post planned in this slot. One about Archibald Arrol. But I've had to postpone it. I've found a stack of related material I need go through properly first. Dead exciting stuff. Honestly. All about their financial structure.


half_man_half_pint said...

Do you have any brewery logs
for Campbell, Hope and King?
It's still a famous name in Edinburgh. Older folk often speak about how good their beers were - compared to the usual sweet brown stuff being produced elsewhere in the 50s and 60s.

Campbell's was shut (asset stripped?) by Whitbread in 1970.
Most of the brewery buildings survived until 1993. Lots of folk were shocked when they were demolished. It was assumed that they were listed.

Most of the site is now awful student flats and a certain Brewdog pub. Not that they would be interested!

Ron Pattinson said...

Half man, not at the moment. But fortunately they were taken over by Whitbread. Who did a really good job of preserving records. It looks like they've a pretty full set of brewing records at the Scottish Brewing Archive.