I'll run through the categories I'm using before we go any further. I've split the Milds into these bands:
1060º - 1069º Mild
1070º - 1079º Best Mild
1080º - 1089º Special Mild
1090º - 1099º Extra Special Mild
1100º - 1109º Imperial Mild
That should make the description easier for me.
As you can see, this comparison thing is going to take a while. There are still three more posts to come on Mild Ale alone. And in this set, as I do have Porter and Stout from Younger, there will be more styles to compare. Such fun. What did I do with myself before I discovered Scotland?
England vs Scotland early 1850's Mild 1070º - 1079º | |||||||||||||||
Date | Year | Brewer | Beer | OG | FG | ABV | App. Atten-uation | lbs hops/ qtr | hops lb/brl | boil time (hours) | boil time (hours) | boil time (hours) | Pitch temp | max. fer-ment-ation temp | length of fer-ment-ation (days) |
2nd Oct | 1850 | Whitbread | X | 1070.6 | 1027.7 | 5.68 | 60.78% | 7.87 | 2.42 | 1.17 | 2 | 2 | 64 | 74 | 6 |
9th Oct | 1850 | Whitbread | X | 1072.0 | 1029.9 | 5.57 | 58.46% | 7.98 | 2.41 | 1.5 | 2 | 2 | 64 | 74 | 6 |
24th Sep | 1850 | Whitbread | X | 1073.7 | 1027.7 | 6.08 | 62.41% | 7.91 | 2.42 | 1.5 | 2 | 2 | 64 | 74 | 5 |
7th Oct | 1850 | Whitbread | X | 1073.7 | 1030.5 | 5.72 | 58.65% | 9.95 | 3.13 | 1.5 | 2 | 2 | 64 | 74 | 5 |
8th Oct | 1850 | Whitbread | X | 1074.5 | 1031.6 | 5.68 | 57.62% | 7.85 | 2.59 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 64 | 74 | 5 |
25th Sep | 1850 | Whitbread | X | 1077.3 | 1029.1 | 6.38 | 62.37% | 8.36 | 2.76 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 64 | 74 | 5 |
25th Sep | 1850 | Truman | X Ale | 1078.1 | 8 | 2.67 | 61 | ||||||||
1st Jul | 1850 | Truman | X Ale | 1078.4 | 8 | 2.62 | 63 | ||||||||
9th Oct | 1850 | Whitbread | XL | 1079.2 | 1033.2 | 6.08 | 58.04% | 7.98 | 2.65 | 1.5 | 2 | 2 | 64 | 75 | 6 |
Average | 1075.3 | 1030.0 | 5.88 | 59.76% | 8.21 | 2.63 | 1.60 | 2.00 | 2.00 | 63.6 | 74.1 | 5.4 | |||
5th Apr | 1853 | Younger, Wm. | 60/- | 1070 | 1029 | 5.42 | 58.57% | 5.00 | 2.21 | 1.5 | 58 | 64 | 7 | ||
20th Oct | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1070 | 1031 | 5.16 | 55.71% | 8.00 | 2.95 | 1.25 | 1.5 | 57 | 67 | 7 | |
25th Nov | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1070 | 1032 | 5.03 | 54.29% | 1.61 | 1.67 | 1.33 | 57 | 65 | 7 | ||
2nd Mar | 1852 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1070 | 1030 | 5.29 | 57.14% | 7.00 | 2.19 | 1.08 | 1.25 | 56 | 67 | 8 | |
24th Jul | 1852 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1070 | 1035 | 4.63 | 50.00% | 8.00 | 2.74 | 1.17 | 1.25 | 59 | 69 | 7 | |
20th Apr | 1853 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1070 | 1031 | 5.16 | 55.71% | 7.73 | 2.83 | 1.5 | 1.5 | 56 | 68 | 8 | |
23rd Apr | 1853 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1070 | 1027 | 5.69 | 61.43% | 8.00 | 2.87 | 1.33 | 1.5 | 55 | 66 | 7 | |
4th Oct | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1071 | 1033 | 5.03 | 53.52% | 9.00 | 3.08 | 1.25 | 56 | 66 | 7 | ||
28th Oct | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1071 | 1029 | 5.56 | 59.15% | 8.00 | 3.15 | 1.33 | 1.5 | 56 | 67 | 8 | |
14th Nov | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1071 | 1029 | 5.56 | 59.15% | 8.00 | 2.70 | 1.25 | 1.5 | 57 | 66 | 8 | |
26th Mar | 1852 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1071 | 1031 | 5.29 | 56.34% | 7.00 | 2.26 | 1 | 1.25 | 56 | 66 | 7 | |
28th Jul | 1852 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1071 | 1034 | 4.89 | 52.11% | 8.00 | 2.73 | 1 | 1.17 | 61 | 67 | 6 | |
10th May | 1853 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1071 | 1030 | 5.42 | 57.75% | 9.00 | 3.05 | 1.5 | 1 | 57 | 68 | 7 | |
14th Oct | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | 60/- | 1072 | 1030 | 5.56 | 58.33% | 1.50 | 1.13 | 1.75 | 56 | 67 | 8 | ||
6th Oct | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1072 | 1029 | 5.69 | 59.72% | 9.00 | 3.20 | 1.25 | 1.5 | 57 | 67 | 7 | |
3rd Dec | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1072 | 1029 | 5.69 | 59.72% | 1.5 | 57 | 66 | 8 | ||||
27th Mar | 1852 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1072 | 1031 | 5.42 | 56.94% | 7.00 | 2.22 | 1 | 1 | 56 | 66 | 7 | |
26th Mar | 1852 | Younger, Wm. | 60/- | 1073 | 1030 | 5.69 | 58.90% | 4.58 | 1.64 | 1 | 1.5 | 56 | 66 | 8 | |
30th Apr | 1853 | Younger, Wm. | 60/- | 1073 | 1024 | 6.48 | 67.12% | 5.00 | 1.90 | 1.5 | 1.5 | 58 | 67 | 7 | |
13th Oct | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1073 | 1030 | 5.69 | 58.90% | 9.36 | 3.20 | 1.25 | 1.5 | 56 | 66 | 8 | |
4th Nov | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1073 | 1030 | 5.69 | 58.90% | 8.00 | 2.67 | 1.25 | 1.75 | 57 | 67 | 8 | |
15th Dec | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1073 | 1031 | 5.56 | 57.53% | 8.57 | 2.86 | 1.5 | 57 | 67 | 7 | ||
4th Dec | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | 60/- | 1074 | 1034 | 5.29 | 54.05% | 4.32 | 1.52 | 1.66 | 57 | 67 | 8 | ||
30th Oct | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | 60/- | 1075 | 1033 | 5.56 | 56.00% | 5.00 | 1.67 | 1.25 | 1.5 | 57 | 67 | 8 | |
12th Nov | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | 60/- | 1075 | 1033 | 5.56 | 56.00% | 5.00 | 1.54 | 1.25 | 1.5 | 57 | 67 | 8 | |
22nd Jul | 1852 | Younger, Wm. | 60/- | 1075 | 1036 | 5.16 | 52.00% | 6.00 | 2.14 | 1.17 | 1.25 | 59 | 68 | 7 | |
11th Nov | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1075 | 1028 | 6.22 | 62.67% | 8.33 | 2.78 | 1.25 | 1.17 | 56 | 68 | 9 | |
26th Nov | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1075 | 1036 | 5.16 | 52.00% | 1.94 | 1.82 | 1.5 | 58 | 66 | 6 | ||
21st Nov | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | 60/- | 1076 | 1036 | 5.29 | 52.63% | 5.00 | 1.69 | 1.5 | 1.25 | 56 | 67 | 8 | |
24th Jun | 1854 | Younger, Wm. | 80/- | 1076 | 7.42 | 2.65 | 1.5 | 59 | |||||||
17th Nov | 1853 | Younger, Wm. | XX | 1076 | 1033 | 5.69 | 56.58% | 7.88 | 2.80 | 1.33 | 57 | 67 | 7 | ||
24th Nov | 1853 | Younger, Wm. | XX | 1076 | 1029 | 6.22 | 61.84% | 8.00 | 3.00 | 1.5 | 56 | 66 | 8 | ||
30th Nov | 1853 | Younger, Wm. | XX | 1076 | 1030 | 6.09 | 60.53% | 8.00 | 3.08 | 1.5 | 56 | 68 | 8 | ||
20th Oct | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | 60/- | 1077 | 1032 | 5.95 | 58.44% | 5.00 | 1.76 | 1.17 | 1.5 | 57 | 67 | 8 | |
2nd Dec | 1851 | Younger, Wm. | X | 1078 | 1029 | 6.48 | 62.82% | 5.36 | 2.00 | 1.33 | 56 | 66 | 8 | ||
12th Nov | 1853 | Younger, Wm. | 80/- | 1079 | 1036 | 5.69 | 54.43% | 4.50 | 1.37 | 1.42 | 1.5 | 57 | 68 | 7 | |
Average | 1073.1 | 1031.1 | 5.54 | 57.31% | 6.55 | 2.37 | 1.33 | 1.38 | 0.00 | 56.9 | 66.8 | 7.5 | |||
difference | -2.2 | 1.2 | -0.34 | 3.25% | -1.67 | -0.26 | -0.27 | -0.62 | -2.00 | -6.6 | -7.4 | 2.1 | |||
Sources: | |||||||||||||||
William Younger brewing record document number WY/6/1/2/5 held at the Scottish Brewing Archive | |||||||||||||||
Whitbread brewing record document number LMA/4453/D/01/014 held at the London Metropolitan Archives | |||||||||||||||
Truman brewing record document number B/THB/C/132 held at the London Metropolitan Archives |
I keep staring at the hopping rates hoping something is going to jump out at me. All I can see here is noise. The London beers are a much tighter set, though the sample size is much smaller. The variation is much greater among the Younger beers. The most heavily hopped has about 3 times as many hops as the least heavily hopped. Averaged out, The London beers have about 10% more hops. Yet I'm reluctant to draw any conclusions. Apart from: in the early 1850's Younger's Best Mild Ales were on average a little less heavily hopped than equivalent London beers.
Thank you boil times. At least you make my life easy in this set. Once again, the pattern isn't hard to spot: Younger's boil times were shorter. There's only the occasional Younger that matches or exceeds the London times. The first boil averaged 15 minutes less, the second almost 40 minutes less. Especially of the second wort. I'll look you straight in the eye and say: in the early 1850's Younger's Best Mild Ales had shorter boils than equivalent London beers.
The differences in fermentation temperatures have been reasonably consistent until now. Younger's pitching temperatures being around 4º F and the maximum temperature 7-8º F lower. This time both figures are pretty similar. Which makes things dead simple: in the early 1850's Younger's Best Mild Ales were fermented on average 7º F cooler than equivalent London beers.
This is so easy. There's an obvious pattern in the length of fermentation. None of Younger's beers took fewer than six days to ferment, most took longer. Six days was the longest London fermentation. No need to say any more: in the early 1850's Younger's Best Mild Ales took about a day longer to ferment than equivalent London beers.
Once again, Younger's attenuation is lower. But not as much lower this time. Only about 5% less than in London, whereas previously it's been 10%. I'm not so sure there's much significance in this. The difference in ABV is pretty minimal, too. Especially as the average OG of the London beers is slightly higher. The FG of Younger's is a bit higher, but again not by much. Idon't feel confident about saying anything much for certain. In the early 1850's Younger's Best Mild Ales were slightly less attenuated than equivalent London beers.
I am wondering if I'll ever get to the end of this series. Determination and a general lack of activity in my cranium should see me through.
2 comments:
Imperial Mild? Ron, are you going all American Innovative Craft Brewer on us?
Pivní, just getting in there first. Rathere me coin the names than someone else.
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