What train of thought did it wave goodbye to from the platform? Simple. That maybe I should take a look at the analyses I have. The ones that give acidity. So that's what I did. Just now. The results are intriguing. Now I just have to summon up the energy to tell you about them. It's Sunday and the Yorkshire puddings are already in the oven. I'll have to be quick.
First, an explanation about how I've selected these samples. It wasn't a complicated process. I just sorted on the acidity column. My beautiful table contains all the examples with an acidity of greater than 0.12%. (Most British beers in the 20th century had acidity of 0.04 to 0.06%.) An arbitrary cut-off point, mostly decided on to keep the table to a reasonable length.
For purposes of comparison, 3 analyses of Lambik in the late 19th century gave acidity percentages of 1.06, 1.11, 1.16.
Acidity of Porter and Stout | ||||||||||
Year | Brewer | Country | Beer | Style | Acidity | FG | OG | Colour | ABV | attenuation |
1929 | Hammerton | UK | Oatmeal Stout | Stout | 0.12 | 1015.7 | 1049.4 | 4.36 | 68.22% | |
1929 | Hoare | UK | Stout | Stout | 0.12 | 1010.9 | 1052.1 | 5.37 | 79.08% | |
1947 | Raggett | UK | Stout | Stout | 0.12 | 1012.1 | 1040.4 | 1 + 18.5 | 3.67 | 70.05% |
1948 | Guinness | Ireland | Extra Stout | Stout | 0.12 | 1012 | 1047.2 | 1 + 6.5 | 4.57 | 74.58% |
1948 | Taylor Walker | UK | Nourishing Stout | Stout | 0.12 | 1008.4 | 1031.6 | 1 + 17.5 | 3.01 | 73.42% |
1958 | Guinness | Ireland | Foreign Extra Stout | Stout | 0.12 | 1015.9 | 1074.4 | 250 | 7.65 | 78.63% |
1933 | Barclay Perkins | UK | Stout | Stout | 0.13 | 1013.9 | 1052 | 4.95 | 73.27% | |
1940 | Whitakers Halifax | UK | Milk Stout | Stout | 0.13 | 1021.7 | 1058.8 | 1 + 21 | 4.80 | 63.10% |
1899 | Unknown | USA | American Porter | Porter | 0.14 | 1011.43 | 1053.49 | 5.24 | 77.74% | |
1931 | Hoare | UK | Stout | Stout | 0.14 | 1012.6 | 1054.2 | 5.41 | 76.75% | |
1951 | JW Lees & Co Ltd | UK | Archer Stout | Stout | 0.14 | 1009.6 | 1041.7 | 4.17 | 76.98% | |
1953 | Brickwoods | UK | Black Bricky | Stout | 0.14 | 1015.1 | 1045.7 | 1 + 12 | 3.96 | 66.96% |
1887 | Unknown | UK | English Stout | Stout | 0.15 | 1014.38 | 1074.72 | 7.66 | 79.63% | |
1950 | Tennent Ltd | UK | Milk Stout (Export) | Stout | 0.16 | 1020 | 1063.2 | 1 + 17 | 5.60 | 68.35% |
1950 | Unknown | UK | Imperial Stout | Stout | 0.16 | 1017 | 1066.8 | 1 + 19 | 6.49 | 74.55% |
1900 | Unknown | Canada | Canadian Porter | Porter | 0.16 | 1015.57 | 1057.97 | 5.46 | 72.03% | |
1897 | Unknown | USA | American Porter | Porter | 0.17 | 1026.36 | 1073.88 | 6.11 | 62.72% | |
1952 | Leicester Brewing & Malting Co. | UK | Milk Stout | Stout | 0.17 | 1010.2 | 1044.2 | 1 + 15.5 | 4.42 | 76.92% |
1955 | Worthington | UK | Imperial Stout (White Shield) | Stout | 0.17 | 1017.3 | 1078.2 | 325 | 7.97 | 77.88% |
1870 | Hoare | UK | Porter | Porter | 0.18 | 1012.99 | 1052.42 | 5.13 | 75.22% | |
1870 | Whitbread | UK | Porter | Porter | 0.18 | 1014.04 | 1054.11 | 5.21 | 74.05% | |
1953 | Guinness | Ireland | Extra Stout | Stout | 0.18 | 1002.8 | 1046.3 | 1 + 8 | 5.70 | 93.95% |
1879 | Unknown, Dublin | Ireland | Dublin Single Stout | Stout | 0.22 | 1023.94 | 1061.75 | 6.15 | 59.82% | |
1870 | Guinness | Ireland | Extra Stout | Stout | 0.24 | 1015.51 | 1078.06 | 8.20 | 80.13% | |
1870 | Truman | UK | Porter | Porter | 0.24 | 1013.16 | 1051.33 | 4.96 | 74.36% | |
1901 | Guinness | Ireland | Extra Foreign Stout, white label | Stout | 0.24 | 1013.20 | 1074.98 | 7.86 | 81.34% | |
1882 | Unknown, Dublin | Ireland | Dublin Stout | Stout | 0.25 | 1028.38 | 1096.75 | 8.48 | 68.80% | |
1870 | Berlin | Germany | Porter | Porter | 0.34 | 1020.7 | 1077.85 | 40 | 7.46 | 71.97% |
1955 | Bass | UK | Imperial Stout | Stout | 0.34 | 1018.4 | 1078.8 | 375 | 7.90 | 76.65% |
1879 | Unknown, Dublin | Ireland | Dublin Double Stout | Stout | 0.36 | 1011.24 | 1085.68 | 9.04 | 85.94% | |
1890 | Haake & Co., Bremen | Germany | Porter | Porter | 0.45 | 1041.3 | 1089.3 | 6.18 | 53.75% | |
1884 | Barclay Perkins | UK | Double Brown Stout | Stout | 0.46 | 1015.57 | 1077.45 | 7.50 | 78.70% | |
1950 | Artois Brewery | Belgium | Extra Stout | Stout | 0.47 | 1018.1 | 1058 | 1 + 16.5 | 5.17 | 68.79% |
1932 | Guinness | Ireland | Extra Stout (bottled by John Martin, Antwerp) | Stout | 0.77 | 1014.4 | 1057 | 5.54 | 74.74% | |
Sources: | ||||||||||
Whitbread Gravity Book | ||||||||||
Wahl & Henius, pages 823-830 | ||||||||||
A dictionary of chemistry and the allied branches of other sciences, Volume 6 by Henry Watts, 1872, page 256 | ||||||||||
"Theory and Practice of the Preparation of Malt and the Fabrication of Beer" Julius E. Thausing, Anton Schwartz and A.H. Bauer, Philadelphia 1882, pages 748-751 | ||||||||||
"Handbuch der chemischen technologie" by Otto Dammer, Rudolf Kaiser, 1896, pages 696-697 |
Surprisingly, both the most acidic examples are from the 20th century. Guinness is well represented. Not such a surprise, given their production methods.
Dinner's ready. Do-it-yourself analysis time, I'm afraid.
9 comments:
Very interesting, and basically it suggests that stout and porter were considerably more acidic-tasting in the 1800's and well into the 1900's than for most beer in general in the 20th century. I would infer that porter and stout retained a traditional character in this respect, often resulting from retaining a vatted element (as for Guinness famously). The high numbers for Belgium in the 1900's perhaps can be explained by local taste since Belgium offered and still does numerous examples of very acidic beer.
When porter started reappearing after Michael Jackson's first books, I recall some fairly dry or astringent examples. Taddy Porter from Samuel Smith, as exported to North America, can still taste like that. Today, I would say most examples are fairly mild in 1800's terms.
Gary
As soon as we empty the next batch of wooden casks for Brewers Reserve,we will put some London Porter in and age it for 12 months.
We will see how the acidity develops
John, great idea. Do you plan blending the Porter after the 12 months or selling it straight?
On the subject of Porter, you can get one last look around the Park Royal brewery here:
http://www.forbidden-places.net/urban-exploration-park-royal-guinness-brewery#gal
My next brew is going be a soured porter, too. Followed by a shot at Lichtenhainer.
Am I easily led or what?
Amost forgot the WeissMild experiment.
So much brewing to do and so little time... when am I going to be able to develop my Plymouth White Ale?
John, that sounds terrific - first time anyone has done that in London, I'd estimate for 70 years as a minimum: longer, if, as I suspect, London brewers never aged their porter much after the First World War.
Stuart P - let us know how you get on with making the Ripening!
Fantastic and I would only suggest with modesty (not being a brewer): consider hopping the beer very well, perhaps 3 lbs per barrel. I believe the benefits of long aging in wood will only manifest (for porter) with a very well-hopped brew.
Gary
How does percent acidity relate to pH?
StuartP: this should assist your Devonshire white ale project:
http://books.google.ca/books?id=Q1QDAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA188&dq=Devonshire+white+ale&cd=2#v=onepage&q=Devonshire%20white%20ale&f=false
Gary
hello there thanks for your grat post, as usual ((o:
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