WW I might have put the boot into Porter, but Stout was still alive and kicking in London. Looking at Whitbread\s production figures, it looks as if some Porter drinkers switched to Stout. It would make sense, as post-war Stout was very similar to pre-war Porter.
Whitbread brewed considerable quantities of Stout between the wars. However, the long-term tendency was of decline.
Over the interwar period, the proportion of Whitbread’s output that was Porter and Stout fell from 35% to 22%. A worrying trend and a sign of what would come after WW II.
This is the time when a couple of Stout variants became incredibly popular: Oatmeal Stout and Milk Stout. Both sort-of exclusively in bottled form.
Oatmeal Stout had been around since the 1890s and was already pretty popular in the runup to WW I. While the original versions, such as Maclay’s, had a hefty quantity of oats, later imitators used ridiculously small amounts. And, as they were often parti-gyled with other Stouts, a company’s draught Stout might also contain unannounced oats.
Milk Stout was developed by Mackeson in 1911. They claimed to want to create a more nourishing form of Stout by adding lactose. They made much play of this on their labels and advertising. It was a big hit. Too big a hit for a small brewer like Mackeson.
Originally, they allowed other brewers to produce Milk Stout under licence. This system broke down after a while when breweries brewed versions without bothering to get a licence. In the 1930s, Mackeson came under the control of Whitbread. Who started brewing their Milk Stout at Chiswell Street in 1936.
The odd strong Stout continued to brewed, mostly for export. Though a few specialities, such as Barclay’s Imperial Russian Stout, continued to be brewed at pre-war strength.
Another big development was the opening of Guinness’s Park Royal brewery in London. Bringing together the two great Stout brewing traditions. Not that Guinness picked up anything from local practices. They brewed exactly the same way as they did in Dublin.
Whitbread Porter and Stout output 1921 - 1939 | ||||||||||
P | S | CS | LS | ES | MS | SSS | Total Porter & Stout | Total Ale & Porter | % Porter & Stout | |
1921 | 15,688 | 58,452 | 133,563 | 30,920 | 238,623 | 675,647 | 35.32% | |||
1922 | 16,562 | 47,530 | 84,703 | 15,340 | 28,582 | 192,717 | 576,118 | 33.45% | ||
1923 | 14,165 | 39,960 | 68,326 | 20,866 | 26,660 | 169,977 | 505,097 | 33.65% | ||
1924 | 15,948 | 37,834 | 74,258 | 23,442 | 26,710 | 178,192 | 551,616 | 32.30% | ||
1925 | 14,943 | 35,396 | 62,357 | 22,262 | 28,974 | 163,932 | 527,977 | 31.05% | ||
1926 | 13,511 | 34,567 | 20,721 | 69,724 | 29,990 | 168,513 | 512,528 | 32.88% | ||
1927 | 10,708 | 30,087 | 86,569 | 22,361 | 149,725 | 462,250 | 32.39% | |||
1928 | 10,105 | 30,017 | 85,992 | 16,039 | 142,153 | 488,357 | 29.11% | |||
1929 | 5,558 | 17,284 | 51,624 | 11,313 | 85,779 | 443,888 | 19.32% | |||
1930 | 13,840 | 25,643 | 90,801 | 20,724 | 151,008 | 535,271 | 28.21% | |||
1931 | 13,389 | 17,109 | 93,094 | 20,027 | 143,619 | 495,805 | 28.97% | |||
1932 | 10,493 | 100,632 | 15,342 | 126,467 | 442,755 | 28.56% | ||||
1933 | 9,653 | 97,810 | 13,973 | 121,436 | 471,190 | 25.77% | ||||
1934 | 9,444 | 91,660 | 21,116 | 122,220 | 501,180 | 24.39% | ||||
1935 | 8,006 | 89,617 | 25,646 | 123,269 | 528,370 | 23.33% | ||||
1936 | 6,836 | 85,748 | 16,868 | 14,428 | 123,880 | 540,995 | 22.90% | |||
1937 | 5,939 | 82,900 | 10,805 | 27,730 | 127,374 | 565,230 | 22.53% | |||
1938 | 5,133 | 75,651 | 10,022 | 36,769 | 127,575 | 569,532 | 22.40% | |||
1939 | 3,810 | 67,177 | 6,037 | 50,890 | 928 | 128,842 | 590,695 | 21.81% | ||
Sources: | ||||||||||
Whitbread brewing records held at the London Metropolitan Archives, document numbers LMA/4453/D/09/114 to LMA/4453/D/09/126 and LMA/4453/D/01/086 to LMA/4453/D/01/107. |
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I read this quote about 1850's and 1860's London, written in 1924...'At any of these resorts compounds unknown to the modern bar-maid might be called for. Such as porter, a thin black fluid suggestive of liberally-watered stout, and "cooper," a half-and-half mixture of porter and four-penny ale - which was a "small beer" costing 4d. per quart, this being likewise the market price of porter.'. Two things struck me - porter was 'unknown' to the 1920's London barmaid, and porter being like liberally watered-down stout. Does that fit with something you said on Martyn Cornell's page about porter being a bit like mild? When I used to drink (dark) mild in the late (19)80's, I used to call it poor man's Guinness as it was very dark, a bit ruby coloured under light, and something of the taste of Guinness.
ReplyDeleteMild has nothing to do with porter.
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Source for the 1924 quote - https://www.victorianlondon.org/publications5/londoners-10.htm
ReplyDeleteInteresting Ron thankfully modern oatmeal stouts tend to have a good quantity of oats in them.
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