tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post7335362283735948905..comments2024-03-28T13:20:29.156-07:00Comments on Shut up about Barclay Perkins: 1909 Beer Style Guide Courage Imperial Stout recipe correctionRon Pattinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-20684555711715265512014-06-01T17:56:26.762-07:002014-06-01T17:56:26.762-07:00Just in case anyone is coming back to this thread ...Just in case anyone is coming back to this thread and wondering about the amounts, if you use the imperial figures given, but change to kg (so 6.69 kg Pale Malt, 1.65 kg Brown Malt, and 0.88kg Black Malt) the percentages work out in line with the recipe by percentages with a calculated OG of 1.105. I haven't yet made it this way, but I was wondering so thought I'd post what I worked out. <br /><br />Keeping the OG at the posted 1.094 and the percentages the same it works out at 6.02kg Pale Malt, 1.48kg Brown Malt and 0.79kg Black Malt.UrgentBloodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05414682085228656429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-793492893407269862012-02-18T09:22:46.829-08:002012-02-18T09:22:46.829-08:00Sorry boys. Don't know what happened here. I&#...Sorry boys. Don't know what happened here. I'll fix this when I get back in the country. Too many Dragon Stouts in Jamaica to do it now. :)Kristen Englandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05212694853976179911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-33851130754346029242012-02-16T11:38:12.476-08:002012-02-16T11:38:12.476-08:00I think Edwards numbers are closer. The 5 Ga grist...I think Edwards numbers are closer. The 5 Ga grist is listed in lbs... but those numbers look more like kg!Derek Hydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09221010312610914893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-35486338176001811062012-02-16T07:26:21.467-08:002012-02-16T07:26:21.467-08:00Thanks for posting but as anonymous pointed out it...Thanks for posting but as anonymous pointed out it would need more than 4kg of grain for 1.094 in 19L. If the percentages are now correct (they seem more in line with http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2010/10/courage-stout-1914-1918.html) the grist should be something like this for the 19L homebrew batches:<br /><br />Pale 13.40 lb 6.080 kg <br />Brown 3.30 lb 1.495 kg<br />Black 1.77 lb 0.803 kgEdwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-56789280817502366072012-02-16T07:07:43.388-08:002012-02-16T07:07:43.388-08:00Sorry, Ron, I meant 1914 (in my last), not 1909. ...Sorry, Ron, I meant 1914 (in my last), not 1909. <br /><br />GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-67092205742322690162012-02-16T05:43:36.791-08:002012-02-16T05:43:36.791-08:00Ron, I understand, but the comparison is still wor...Ron, I understand, but the comparison is still worth doing IMO given that the ABV of both is virtually the same, the hop used is the same (Wells Young uses Styrian Goldings which I understand is a form of the Fuggle) and the malt specs are pretty similar. <br /><br />True, the 1909 uses brown malt and the Wells Young uses amber malt, but it's close enough I think given the many variables that exist anyway. <br /><br />And, some business history is at least shared.<br /><br />GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-36947792717108973582012-02-16T04:51:44.055-08:002012-02-16T04:51:44.055-08:00Gary, this isn't Courage Russian Stout. It'...Gary, this isn't Courage Russian Stout. It's Courage Imperial Stout. totally different beers. In 1914 Courage and Barclay Perkins were separate companies.<br /><br />The beer that was Barclay's Russian Stout only became Courage Russian Stout in 1969.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-9605433419351028772012-02-16T04:25:48.714-08:002012-02-16T04:25:48.714-08:00I've tasted the current Wells Young Imperial R...I've tasted the current Wells Young Imperial Russian Stout, and the taste note for the 1914 is quite applicable to it! <br /><br />It would be interesting to have Kristen's comparative notes for each, or between the Wells Young and any other historical recreation of Courage's Imperial Stout he has on hand.<br /><br />GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-12904320485504244472012-02-16T04:16:25.249-08:002012-02-16T04:16:25.249-08:00This can't be right. There's no way to get...This can't be right. There's no way to get 1.094 from ~4 kg of grains in a 19 litre batch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com