tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post6033035153567915406..comments2024-03-29T03:17:49.172-07:00Comments on Shut up about Barclay Perkins: Parti-gyle examplesRon Pattinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-15946732971634147712010-04-27T11:13:42.587-07:002010-04-27T11:13:42.587-07:00John,
Bloody brilliant! Its nice to see theory pr...John,<br /><br />Bloody brilliant! Its nice to see theory prove true in actually brewery works.Kristen Englandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05212694853976179911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-22261547886478698712010-04-27T09:21:00.445-07:002010-04-27T09:21:00.445-07:00You only have to look at the range of draught beer...You only have to look at the range of draught beers (ten to 12) listed in Victorian brewery ads to see that parti-gyling from just three or four basic recipes must have been almost universal.Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01703548364118364764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-37469314772324951332010-04-27T08:20:02.917-07:002010-04-27T08:20:02.917-07:00We do parti-gyle Golden Pride,London Pride,ESB and...We do parti-gyle Golden Pride,London Pride,ESB and Chiswick. We used to parti-gyle Hock and Strong Ale(stopped early 80's)In fact looking through our records I can't find a year without a parti-gyle.<br /><br />1845 etc are single gyle brews.<br /><br />The advantages for us are time. I think it would take at least 25% longer to make the beer. That is simply in lost time through under use of capacity. It takes two mashes to make 160 brls of ESB,320 Pride and 160 Chiswick. It would take 3 mashes to make them as single gyles. <br /><br />It also uses raw materials more effectively.Smaller loss of last runnings,no storage vessel needed to take last runnings from one brew to transfer to the next. Weaker coppers have better hop utilisation etc<br /><br />JohnJohn Keelingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-87398047067770913842010-04-27T07:04:19.577-07:002010-04-27T07:04:19.577-07:00Where's Keeling at when you need him? He still...Where's Keeling at when you need him? He still does parti-gyling. John, what difference would you suppose the efficiency would change if you went from gyling to making straight beers?Kristen Englandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05212694853976179911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-85618893603103126472010-04-27T05:51:40.785-07:002010-04-27T05:51:40.785-07:00Adrian, I would guess many of the older breweries ...Adrian, I would guess many of the older breweries do. <br /><br />I know Bateman's only used to have two basic recipes: one for Mild and Brown Ale and another for all the Bitters. They party-gyled all the beers from those two brews.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-72290766452205585382010-04-27T05:10:58.018-07:002010-04-27T05:10:58.018-07:00Don’t Wadworth’s still do it as well?Don’t Wadworth’s still do it as well?Adrian Tierney-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05421802854011395300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-73578865673544167592010-04-27T03:33:16.557-07:002010-04-27T03:33:16.557-07:00rabbi lionheart, there are two main reasons for pa...rabbi lionheart, there are two main reasons for parti-gyling:<br /><br />1. It allows brewers to produce a variety of beers of different strengths an in different quantities on one set of equipment.<br /><br />2. It's very efficient. That's the main reason Fullers still parti-gyle.<br /><br /><br />The big brewers in 19th century London had equipment with a brew length of 500 to 1,000 barrels. For beers that sold in smaller quantities, like really strong Stouts, brewing such beers entire gyle would be very wasteful. You'd be under-utilising your equipment. Rather than brew 100 barrels of Imperial Stout in equipment designed to brew 1,000 barrels at a time, you'd brew 100 barrels of Stout and 900 barrels of Porter at the same time. Much more efficient.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-53953963610900532832010-04-27T00:59:21.973-07:002010-04-27T00:59:21.973-07:00I'm still a bit lost on the whole Parti-gyle t...I'm still a bit lost on the whole Parti-gyle thing. What the hell was the point? It seems like a lot of blending and making of strangely weak and relatively strong worts. Why not just make different beers at separate times?jonbraziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02206111505750271052noreply@blogger.com