tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post5396302678333589743..comments2024-03-28T03:54:26.782-07:00Comments on Shut up about Barclay Perkins: Truman Ales part one: 1831 - 1841Ron Pattinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-74045724463029549162009-03-06T14:32:00.000-08:002009-03-06T14:32:00.000-08:00Maybe the unfermentable, dark grains added flavor ...Maybe the unfermentable, dark grains added flavor as the OG dropped giving a weaker malt backbone? Speaking of light to dark, do you have a recipe for a pale porter in your records? Could be interesting to see, and brew. <BR/><BR/> Get better and thanks for your efforts.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14256078606152011585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-73692382630847820912009-03-06T11:34:00.000-08:002009-03-06T11:34:00.000-08:00Oblivious, no idea. And they went dark before drop...Oblivious, no idea. And they went dark before dropping below 1050. It could just have been fashion. Or the introduction of glasses in place of pewter pots. So drinkers could appreciate more subtleties in colour.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-33657886434670460962009-03-06T10:42:00.000-08:002009-03-06T10:42:00.000-08:00Hi Ron have you found any reason why they got dark...Hi Ron have you found any reason why they got dark?<BR/><BR/>Could the association of dark beers with been "bigger" help smooth over the drop in O.G.? Just a random thoughtOblivioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04184794716327407609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-12793268094493064532009-03-06T10:16:00.000-08:002009-03-06T10:16:00.000-08:00Adding to what Ron has said it seems that a good p...Adding to what Ron has said it seems that a good portion of the darkening agents added to the milds were the dark invert sugars and such. Each brewery is different, and they are all over the map, but it does seem that these substitutes were used. I would first caulk them up to price savers but when looking through old brewing manuals and such and seeing advertisements for these sugars and syrups, the seller really does make them sound like by using their product you can make an ever BETTER product for less price.Kristen Englandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05212694853976179911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-61761668134982217952009-03-06T09:16:00.000-08:002009-03-06T09:16:00.000-08:00Bill, yes, 100% pale malt.When Mild got dark is a ...Bill, yes, 100% pale malt.<BR/><BR/>When Mild got dark is a bit difficult to finger precisely. I think it varied from brewery to brewery. Between 1890 and 1910 for most, I believe.<BR/><BR/>From the 1920's onwards I know for sure. Most were dark but some were pale and others inbetween.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-61947646278859527682009-03-06T08:44:00.000-08:002009-03-06T08:44:00.000-08:00Ron, was the grist on these X beers all pale malt?...Ron, was the grist on these X beers all pale malt? I'm wondering when Mild started to be identifed as a dark beer instead of a pale one. I know the gravities dropped significantly during WWI and never recovered, but when did Mild start creeping from pale to dark? I would expect after WW II but I really have no idea. Any thoughts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-81504099815391518192009-03-06T03:23:00.000-08:002009-03-06T03:23:00.000-08:00Ed, you've spotted the point I was trying to make....Ed, you've spotted the point I was trying to make. The random nature of what is picked for the "traditional version" of a style. <BR/><BR/>Wait until the next installment of Truman's Ales where Pale Ale makes an appearance. See how it fits in with the Milds.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-89111774061781186042009-03-06T03:09:00.000-08:002009-03-06T03:09:00.000-08:00Ed,Thats a good point. It must be the evil influen...Ed,<BR/><BR/>Thats a good point. It must be the evil influence of the BJCP!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-79093571403441133292009-03-06T02:27:00.000-08:002009-03-06T02:27:00.000-08:00It's odd that lots of people have picked up on the...It's odd that lots of people have picked up on the IPAs have to be strong or they're not 'real' IPAs but at the same time you get people saying milds have to be weak. Maybe if Sarah Hughes managed to win the champion winter beer of britain the publicity would put people straight.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.com