tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post4608458637530061338..comments2024-03-28T13:20:29.156-07:00Comments on Shut up about Barclay Perkins: What you need to start an early 19th-century Irish breweryRon Pattinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-70264047790721702442011-07-19T00:33:48.323-07:002011-07-19T00:33:48.323-07:00Tyler, unfortunately, I've not had access to a...Tyler, unfortunately, I've not had access to any Irish brewing records. I'm considering a trip to Ireland for that very purpose. I just need to organise it.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-17521447210389587342011-07-18T13:55:24.120-07:002011-07-18T13:55:24.120-07:00The posts your doing on Irish brewing are great. ...The posts your doing on Irish brewing are great. Thanks so much, would it be possible to do some historic Irish recipes for Let's Brew Wednesday?Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05755687805655338975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-35792059672069235032011-07-18T12:07:14.633-07:002011-07-18T12:07:14.633-07:00Assuming the half-barrels were purpose made (not s...Assuming the half-barrels were purpose made (not sawn in half and finished necessitating extra labour), I can't see how they would come cheaper unless the argument about supply and demand and whiskey is valid. Interesting argument. <br /><br />GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-22879928812461028272011-07-18T11:43:49.720-07:002011-07-18T11:43:49.720-07:00Talking of barrels, I'm guessing these were Ir...Talking of barrels, I'm guessing these were Irish barrels, ie, IIRC, 32 gallons, not the 36-gallon British barrel.Martyn Cornellhttp://zythophile.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-80285272596419168392011-07-18T11:09:44.483-07:002011-07-18T11:09:44.483-07:00Perhaps supply and demand? Whisky makers used Barr...Perhaps supply and demand? Whisky makers used Barrel and Quarter Barrels, did they use halves? Or perhaps more obviously it could be a typo?Andrew Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00261171596820050853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-30346318385874625642011-07-18T05:02:59.383-07:002011-07-18T05:02:59.383-07:00Barm, they weren't proportionately more expens...Barm, they weren't proportionately more expensive. The half barrels were listed as costing almost double the price of full barrels.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-3395235980446861182011-07-18T05:01:47.665-07:002011-07-18T05:01:47.665-07:00Beer Nut, thanks very much for that. Very useful i...Beer Nut, thanks very much for that. Very useful information.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-89151477520592705002011-07-18T04:31:46.506-07:002011-07-18T04:31:46.506-07:00Half barrels must have involved almost as much lab...Half barrels must have involved almost as much labour as constructing a full barrel, so it makes perfect sense for them to be proportionally more expensive.Rob Sterowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07870233673933087794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-39154698693819529722011-07-18T02:06:38.295-07:002011-07-18T02:06:38.295-07:00If you want something with a bit more output, and ...If you want something with a bit more output, and don't mind travelling another 30 years further on, I draw your attention to this notice in The Irish Times:<br /><br />Sat, 2 March 1861<br />Court of Bankruptcy and Insolvency<br />In the matter of Thomas Francis Reade and Richard Arthur Reade of Ardee Street in the city of Dublin, brewers, trading as Reade Bros., bankrupts.<br /><br />To be sold at auction on Tuesday 5th March 1861 all the estate, title and interest of the bankrupts.<br /><br />The purchaser will be entitled to the following:<br />1 8-horse-power condensing steam engine and boiler, complete.<br />1 cast-iron sky cooler, containing 300 barrels.<br />2 brewing coppers, containing each 60-70 barrels.<br />1 set of three-throw 6-inch water pumps, with crank rods and pipes.<br />1 pair metal rollers in frames, and gearing.<br />1 set of elevators and hopper for grinding, and malt screen.<br />1 wood mash tun, with machine and false bottom for 60 barrels.<br />Same for 20 barrels.<br />(Each mash tun has a revolving copper sparger driven by engine.)<br />1 under back and pipes, and cocks to each mash tun.<br />Gearing from engine to drive the above machine.<br />1 wood hop-back, with metal false bottom containing 60 barrels.<br />Spring well in brewery yard, 200 feet deep, with metal pump and gearing.<br />1 large cast-iron wort cooler, and 1 wooden cooler with 2 fans.<br />1 set of wort cooling copper pipes, pumps and metal cistern.<br />Reilly's patent refrigerator, with cocks and pipes to tuns.<br />5 fermenting tuns, with copper tempering pipes.<br />Copper and lead pipes and cocks, leading to and from tuns through store house.<br />1 hand pump and lead pipes in tun room.<br />1 wood settling back, containing 800 barrels and pump.<br />Number of brass cocks, copper, lead, and metal pipes connected.<br />9 vats containing from 35 to 65 barrels each.<br />2 small vats, containing about 8 barrels each.<br />1 patent cask cleaning machine, and driving gear.<br />2 wood vessels in back yard, for liquor for scalding casks.<br />3 timber malt bins and a separator.<br /><br />The brewery is in perfect working order, capable of doing a large business, and on a very small outlay this concern would nearly do double its present work; the quantity of drink made therein for the last year amounted to 11,000 barrels.The Beer Nuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.com