tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post3241354045567569518..comments2024-03-28T13:20:29.156-07:00Comments on Shut up about Barclay Perkins: DepressionRon Pattinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-78364022076066765542009-04-12T00:20:00.000-07:002009-04-12T00:20:00.000-07:00First Stater, you misunderstand, the brewing indus...First Stater, you misunderstand, the brewing industry came out stronger, not the beer. <BR/><BR/>British brewers became expert at making flavoursome beers of modest strength. Something no other country has ever managed. <BR/><BR/>You have to remember, too, that the economic crisis in Britain didn't begin with the Wall Street Crash in 1929 but around 1922.<BR/><BR/>Strong does not equal good.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-62891070686026320382009-04-11T15:37:00.000-07:002009-04-11T15:37:00.000-07:00It seems the data points to British beer coming ou...It seems the data points to British beer coming out weaker, not stronger following a 20th century crisis. The brewers could have returned to pre-war strength but chose not to. Same with the tax, they again folded and changed to a weaker beer. When the tax was repealed they did not increase gravity, only profit. The first(?) golden age of British beer seems to be pre-20th century. That is my point.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14256078606152011585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-26736325421536012432009-04-11T00:39:00.000-07:002009-04-11T00:39:00.000-07:00Fist Stater, I don't quite understand what you're ...Fist Stater, I don't quite understand what you're saying. These are the circumstances that forged modern British beer. Adverse conditions forced British brewers to adapt and innovate. <BR/><BR/>My point was that British brewing has survived worse crises than the current one and come out stronger for it.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-33500301826320887282009-04-10T17:28:00.000-07:002009-04-10T17:28:00.000-07:00Between the government and the brewery owners it a...Between the government and the brewery owners it appears British beer never had a chance. Guess they were to busy trying to stay in business to worry about their product. In America to screw things up so well requires a Harvard MBA.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14256078606152011585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-87262306435323488432009-04-10T08:16:00.000-07:002009-04-10T08:16:00.000-07:00I could see the decision being fairly complex (to ...I could see the decision being fairly complex (to raise price or lower gravity) because I would think you would need to know things such as:<BR/><BR/> - average amount of ethanol a drinker would take in on a pub visit<BR/><BR/> - how much volume of beer a drinker on average was prepared to drink (irrespective of alcohol content)<BR/><BR/> - how resistant drinkers were to price increases in the particular time.<BR/><BR/>I would think in some cases, brewers would make more money than before by lowering gravity because drinkers would buy more mass to get the accustomed effect. If they would not do so, though, it would be the drinker that lost out unless the brewer shared the pain in some way. I wonder if the big brewers at least were using cost-benefit analyses and other sophisticated business methods to determine the best course to take.<BR/><BR/>GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-61926524391418213192009-04-10T02:23:00.000-07:002009-04-10T02:23:00.000-07:00Tandleman, that's one of the reasons I posted this...Tandleman, that's one of the reasons I posted this. What happened in the early 1930's is eerily similar to what's happening now. But which politician ever really took lessons from history?Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-60600687614877261712009-04-10T01:44:00.000-07:002009-04-10T01:44:00.000-07:00You ought to send this on to our dear Chancellor a...You ought to send this on to our dear Chancellor and let him judge history.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.com