tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post1863798183479833189..comments2024-03-28T13:20:29.156-07:00Comments on Shut up about Barclay Perkins: Chasing down BurtonRon Pattinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-61539087225599341722021-10-10T09:23:12.130-07:002021-10-10T09:23:12.130-07:00Martyn,
I was pretty pleased with my finds. Those...Martyn,<br /><br />I was pretty pleased with my finds. Those newspaper archives just keep giving.<br /><br />It's clear from the brewing records that Stock Ales in London were around long before they were called Burton Ales. There was just a rebranding, for whatever reason.<br /><br />Now I've dialed down on the when, I'm only more intrigued about the why.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-40318099816048308542021-10-09T05:33:07.054-07:002021-10-09T05:33:07.054-07:00Excellent find, Ron, and significant that the Lond...Excellent find, Ron, and significant that the London Burton should be listed with the milds/ales, pretty much confirming that London brewers just rebranded their 1080OG-plus strongest ales "Burton" to, as you suggest, cash in on the fame of the originals.*I doybt, in fact, that there was actually much difference between Burton "Burton" and X XXK/KKKK-strength strong ales from elsewhere, apart from the well water …Martyn Cornellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16843357962176591317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-49987378870930191702021-10-08T07:45:13.241-07:002021-10-08T07:45:13.241-07:00qq,
it could simply be that Burton Strong Ales we...qq,<br /><br />it could simply be that Burton Strong Ales were gaining in popularity. I've seen a lot of adverts for Burton brewers like Bass, Allsopp and Salt that mention both Pale Ale and Strong Burton Ales. Perhaps London brewers were trying to cash in on their fame, much as they done with pale Ales.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-48253059817793190412021-10-07T15:22:07.188-07:002021-10-07T15:22:07.188-07:00I'd be interested in what makes a Very Superio...I'd be interested in what makes a Very Superior Mild Ale better than a Good Mild Ale.A Brew Rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17030012318161876780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-27457492292648994492021-10-07T08:39:23.927-07:002021-10-07T08:39:23.927-07:00There's one for people who object to bitters b...There's one for people who object to bitters being called "Amber Ale" will throw a fit at Colliers' trademark UK00000009744 from 1876 for "The Amber Ale" as a "pure delicately-hopped Pale Ale" midway in price between their Light Bitter and IPA.<br /><br />Interestingly Tolly Cobbold (who bought Colliers) kept the trademark on into the Brent Walker days and it only expired in 2002, coinciding with the sale to Ridleys.<br /><br /><br />https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00000009744qqnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-13675195918438148642021-10-07T06:05:32.673-07:002021-10-07T06:05:32.673-07:00Interesting as to *why* the change happened at tha...Interesting as to *why* the change happened at that particular time. Obvious "events" around that time are the introduction of trademarks in 1876 and the 1880 Revenue Act, which no doubt would have been "in the air" for a year or two before that. <br /><br />But it feels like it's a response to the likes of Bass getting their trademarks and presumably advertising heavily the virtues of Burton-brewed beer?qqnoreply@blogger.com