tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post942601211113000086..comments2024-03-29T03:17:49.172-07:00Comments on Shut up about Barclay Perkins: I told you had something even worseRon Pattinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-43823797019375987092011-09-21T06:58:24.320-07:002011-09-21T06:58:24.320-07:00@craig you missed my point. The fact that it was ...@craig you missed my point. The fact that it was written in 2002 is relevant because I like to think that the work of people like Ron Pattinson and others, have heightened the knowledge of us all. It takes time though.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04597416115513686122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-56488832703394747742011-09-21T06:54:58.625-07:002011-09-21T06:54:58.625-07:00Just curious as to when Crystal Malt was even used...Just curious as to when Crystal Malt was even used for Pale Ale's... I thought for sure BP didn't start until the early 20th century.<br /><br />Sure, Pale malt was more expensive to make, but it was more efficient and yielded more fermentables than the Brown or Amber malts to more than offset their cost -- I think that's one point Horst missed.<br /><br />I threw up a little in my mouth when I read the part about brewers not keeping reliable records until the 20th century ... it's only 9am and I need a beer.Andrew Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00261171596820050853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-5472036837439196132011-09-21T05:58:08.357-07:002011-09-21T05:58:08.357-07:00"The amount of crystal specified in Horstyboy..."The amount of crystal specified in Horstyboy's recipe strikes me as a bit on the high side for a pale ale,"<br /><br />It can be a bit of an issue with the American home-brew scene.<br /><br />I am surprised he did not raise the usual bugbear of sugar been evil and "not to style" <br /><br />An the usual story that is only used as it was much cheaper than malt.Oblivioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04184794716327407609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-81842729465491966352011-09-21T04:44:23.330-07:002011-09-21T04:44:23.330-07:00Rod, especailly as 19th century Pale Ales didn'...Rod, especailly as 19th century Pale Ales didn't contain ANY crystal malt. It wasn't really common in Pale Ales until after WW II.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-67812262558319794212011-09-21T03:54:56.695-07:002011-09-21T03:54:56.695-07:00The amount of crystal specified in Horstyboy's...The amount of crystal specified in Horstyboy's recipe strikes me as a bit on the high side for a pale ale, but then a lot of his recipes are heavy handed with the dark malts.Rodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-41394503129212825062011-09-20T15:36:37.675-07:002011-09-20T15:36:37.675-07:00Christ. Can't Dornbusch be struck off, or some...Christ. Can't Dornbusch be struck off, or something? Just stop him writing about beer!Rob Sterowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07870233673933087794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-46215074438582694662011-09-20T12:13:13.978-07:002011-09-20T12:13:13.978-07:00There it sort of is - straw. Encyclopedia Brittani...There it sort of is - <a href="http://books.google.ca/books?id=z2ENAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA667&dq=pale+malt+straw&hl=en&ei=jOR4Tv7OEeHj0QGJrqWCDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=pale%20malt%20straw&f=false" rel="nofollow">straw</a>. Encyclopedia Brittanica 1771 at page 667 (the number of the neighbour of the beast.)<br /><br />How about <a href="http://books.google.ca/books?id=63FZAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA13&dq=pale+malt+straw&hl=en&ei=jOR4Tv7OEeHj0QGJrqWCDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEcQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=pale%20malt%20straw&f=false" rel="nofollow">fern-dried malt</a>? There's an authentic brewing style just screaming to be reintroduced. Call it "Ill Relish" or an IRA.<br /><br />AlanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-71815785752250957502011-09-20T12:05:36.403-07:002011-09-20T12:05:36.403-07:00@ R.I.P - The info was just as wrong in 2002 as it...@ R.I.P - The info was just as wrong in 2002 as it is today.<br /><br />By the way the word veification for this reply was "mistskes"... coincidence?Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14129472719929268755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-86266056815547372382011-09-20T11:45:33.395-07:002011-09-20T11:45:33.395-07:00In all fairness to BYO, that article is from 2002....In all fairness to BYO, that article is from 2002. That being said, you're right it's ridiculous. They should revise it or take it down.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04597416115513686122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-41186281254543304172011-09-20T10:59:53.841-07:002011-09-20T10:59:53.841-07:00I knew this would get you going!I knew this would get you going!Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14129472719929268755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-68406350048205202092011-09-20T10:23:13.521-07:002011-09-20T10:23:13.521-07:00Hadn't I heard that before the use of coke the...Hadn't I heard that before the use of coke there had been pale malts for quite a span of time which were dried with straw and that the glory of coke was that it made mass produced and cheaper pale ales possible and accessible to folk other than the rich?<br /><br />[Keeping in mind, of course, that if we ever meet and discuss beer I expect a well earned slap for the grab bag of misconceptions I rely upon.]<br /><br />Alan<br /><a href="http://beerblog.genx40.com/" rel="nofollow">A Good Beer Blog</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com