tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post8900235769932615544..comments2024-03-18T16:40:32.561-07:00Comments on Shut up about Barclay Perkins: Lager from British barleyRon Pattinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-87761823257212693512009-06-12T23:31:43.669-07:002009-06-12T23:31:43.669-07:00I should add that I am aware of krausening and tha...I should add that I am aware of krausening and that its function is something like the priming of real ale. Still, this step seems different to me than the priming of quick-fermented real ale where the original yeast is still active. The very technology that allowed lager to be kept fresh and maturing for a long time was I think complemented naturally by technology to filter the final result or simply bypass the krausen and add CO2 artificially as is so often done today.<br /><br />Thus, aged lager receives a krausen and can (but rarely is) served still fermenting. Real ale is fermented for a much shorter period and warm-conditioned (traditionally anyway) and is served with a slight re-ferment via priming where needed. Analogy? Yes, but in practice not really due (IMO) to the fundamentally industrial-technological nature of lager brewing, and this is why I think very little "real lager" has ever been sold even in the heartlands of the style.<br /><br />GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-69553379283124212712009-06-12T12:50:03.740-07:002009-06-12T12:50:03.740-07:00That marketing bumph is probably a way of referrin...That marketing bumph is probably a way of referring to the then-fashionable sparkling ale trend, i.e., cold-conditioning top-fermented beer and serving it both cold and filtered.<br /><br />I don't think England or possibly even Denmark ever had unfiltered lager.<br /><br />True, the Germans have a couple of styles (e.g., the "un-bunged" is one - I can't spell the German word - kellerbier is another) that are unfiltered and comparable to real ale. But it seems the nature of lager not to admit of such treatment. I.e., the months of cold-conditioning would clarify and mature the beer and it would be racked clear and ultimately filtered mechanically and pasteurized.<br /><br />I think it was the schenk beer in Germany that was served unfiltered in some cases, beer newly brewed but not long-matured as genuine lager originally was.<br /><br />In fact, I sometimes wonder if this unfiltered lager was a kind of echo of the top-fermented beers sold for fast consumption (mild beers in our terms here) that were being displaced by genuine lager.<br /><br />I have always believed something similar of lager and lime, that lime was added to restore the fruity taste people remembered from the ales lager was slowly replacing.<br /><br />Anyhow, it is true that lager (apart from regional markets such as Wrexham, Wales and parts of Scotland) initially had a female following in London at any rate. That and perhaps a kind of snob appeal, too. I recall English writers lauding iced Carlsberg Special Brew for example - one of my holy grails but I never encountered this beer - well maybe once but I don't remember it. <br /><br />Also, being well-carbonated, a half-pint lager went a longer way than bitter and would have appealed to females and those perhaps more accustomed to drinking soft drinks or Champagne.<br /><br />All that is in the distant past and can one conceive of a more laddish drink than English-brewed lager?<br /><br />Which are the best ones by the way? I don't mean Budweiser Budvar or other imports, but genuine English-made lager (licensed or not)? There must be some good ones.<br /><br />GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-73231139945418549442009-06-12T11:18:33.106-07:002009-06-12T11:18:33.106-07:00"In the mid 1900's our team of British Br..."In the mid 1900's our team of British Brewers discovered a way of bringing together the involving flavour of ale with the pleasurable refreshment of continental lager."<br /><br />Oh jesus christ, let's keep the marketing department away from the history books...Andrewhttp://lager-frenzy.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-69877873372976805002009-06-12T07:27:40.172-07:002009-06-12T07:27:40.172-07:00Matt, surely lager is still a girl's drink? Ev...Matt, surely lager is still a girl's drink? Everyone knows real men drink Mild.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-68496253150998726212009-06-12T06:14:58.678-07:002009-06-12T06:14:58.678-07:00The title reminds me of Carling's latest adver...The title reminds me of Carling's latest advertising campaign that claims the beer's great taste (sic) is because they use British barley: http://www.carling.com/beer/barley-map/<br /><br />I'm assuming that British lager went from force carbonated bottles to keg without ever being 'real' in bottle or cask. I've also heard people say that it was seen as a woman's drink up to the 60's.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09310220100267028274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-43449082093899430292009-06-12T01:29:56.847-07:002009-06-12T01:29:56.847-07:00Not sure about other breweries, but Carlsberg expo...Not sure about other breweries, but Carlsberg exports grew from 1918 up to WWII. Exact figures are hard to find, but I think they're tucked away somewhere<br />"After years of trying, Carlsberg finally beat its 1914 record with export sales of 45,300 hl. The success continued and in the final year before the Second Word War, export sales reached 64,296 hl, almost two-thirds of which went to Great Britain. in this year, Carlsberg accounted for 55% of Great Britain's total imports of continental beer. however, it should be noted that the export sales in the 1930s were relatively smaller than in 1914, compared to total production."Andrewhttp://www.lager-frenzy.comnoreply@blogger.com