tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post7631643697102439609..comments2024-03-28T06:20:10.699-07:00Comments on Shut up about Barclay Perkins: Imperial PopRon Pattinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-90215145023263396032011-06-26T15:55:47.636-07:002011-06-26T15:55:47.636-07:00Before someone tells me, I'll clarify: cream o...Before someone tells me, I'll clarify: cream of tartar does not impart taste as such, it is an acid. Sugar is the main taste of cream soda, with vanilla sometimes added. But it contributes to a creamy, smooth silky taste by inhibiting crystalization.<br /><br />GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-29688796874981758052011-06-26T04:54:17.391-07:002011-06-26T04:54:17.391-07:00As a follow up, notice these sugar/yeast/flavourin...As a follow up, notice these sugar/yeast/flavouring recipes, some incorporating cream of tartar, which emphasize that drunk quickly, these pop drinks have little if any alcohol: the author's specific object was to make sodas at home without ethanol:<br /><br />http://notdabblinginnormal.wordpress.com/2010/07/29/soda-pop/<br /><br />Therefore, there is every reason to think the Imperial Pop recipe, which avoids the use of the term "beer", had little alcohol as typically consumed.<br /><br />My point was the underlying taste, though. Cream of tartar imparts a specific taste, known to those who like cream soda, which a little alcohol couldn't affect much. <br /><br />Cream soda is particularly good with hot dogs and french fries.<br /><br />In Montreal again where I grew up, there were restaurants in the East End which specialized in homely fare called steamed hot dogs, served usually with excellent french fries alongside. Only pop was available, of which, apart from Coke and Pepsi, ginger ale, spruce beer and cream soda were amongst the most popular. It may be noted each of these has an alcoholic doppelganger, but by this time they were strictly soft drinks. The spruce beer in one place that still survives, Montreal Pool Room on boul. St-Laurent, was often home-made in fact but never had alcohol.<br /><br />Come to think of it, good old Coke originally had extract of the coca plant in it, so was a type of stimulant. All this class of drinks probably were stimulants originally but for varying reasons (perhaps Temperance, or simply palate reasons) veered away from alcoholic potentiality to comfort beverages for the young and the abstemious.<br /><br />I haven't had a cream soda in probably 30 years but I'll get one soon and add some vodka to it to see what it's like both ways.<br /><br />GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-64999373212261182252011-06-26T04:00:36.745-07:002011-06-26T04:00:36.745-07:00Well as I said this version appears to have been a...Well as I said this version appears to have been alcoholic, just as ginger beer probably was originally, but both forms gave rise to a soft drink version. The recipe is virtually identical to that used for pop cream soda here but for any alcohol produced (see Wikipedia on cream soda).<br /><br />GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-33020610374489878432011-06-26T01:50:07.087-07:002011-06-26T01:50:07.087-07:00Gary, do they put half a pint of spirits into crea...Gary, do they put half a pint of spirits into cream soda?Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-63948442808389328192011-06-25T13:09:42.952-07:002011-06-25T13:09:42.952-07:00Ron, this is what we call here "cream soda&qu...Ron, this is what we call here "cream soda" - it's a soft drink, therefore no alcohol. It sounds like the original pop recipe might produce some alcohol but as sold here, cream soda is strictly a soft drink.<br /><br />The terms pop and soda are used interchangeably in some areas, and in others, one or the other is used, always to mean a fizzy soft drink.<br /><br />In Montreal where I grew up, "ginger ale" meant any soda or pop. "What kind of ginger ale you got?". It could be Pepsi, Coke, Seven-Up, Cott Cola, Orange Crush, etc.<br /><br />Same thing in parts of the States. "What's for Cokes?" in the South meant, what soda or pop, of any kind, do you have?<br /><br />GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.com