tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post7415171389706254843..comments2024-03-29T07:54:08.898-07:00Comments on Shut up about Barclay Perkins: Hop economicsRon Pattinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-25857320893440158792018-02-11T06:42:38.430-08:002018-02-11T06:42:38.430-08:00qq - I read the report you linked. Thanks, really ...qq - I read the report you linked. Thanks, really interesting.Robphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08926646444590368981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-68719801815023937602018-02-08T23:57:50.114-08:002018-02-08T23:57:50.114-08:00Sic1314,
British beer was hoppier and the British...Sic1314,<br /><br />British beer was hoppier and the British drank more beer.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-7145669197117433642018-02-08T08:14:24.479-08:002018-02-08T08:14:24.479-08:00Stranger still that the US population in 1890 woul...Stranger still that the US population in 1890 would be over twice that of the UK in 1850. Was per-capita beer drinking in the UK that much higher than across the Atlantic, had the nascent forces of prohibition already had that much effect? Or were British beers relatively strong hop bombs at the time?Sic1314https://www.blogger.com/profile/13483987336328474503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-79194047510660974782018-02-07T13:32:35.422-08:002018-02-07T13:32:35.422-08:00"I'm surpised to see that the yield per a..."I'm surpised to see that the yield per acre was, on average, higher in the UK than in the USA. Though even the worst West Coast region, Oregon, was more productive that the best in the UK, Kent. However, 25 cwt. per acre, which Mr. Harris claimed was possible, seems like a bit much."<br /><br />You shouldn't be so surprised - in general British cropping is more intensive than its US equivalents, most obviously in modern wheat farming where we get about 9t/ha and they get 3t/ha - it's all about the economics of fertiliser etc.<br /><br />With hops, it's very dependent on variety. For instance, p691 of this JIB has Tolhurst at 30cwt in Worcester in 1922, versus 15cwt "in other growths". It then goes on to compare beers with other hops versus Tolhurst "as around this hop a considerable amount of discussion had arisen. Tolhurst is a bit of a funny one - first selected in 1882, it was considered to have low alpha (this paper has easily the highest alpha I've seen for it) but high beta, and to have better preservative qualities than they expected based on the alpha. But really the high yields and a bit of disease resistance were the only things going for it, it was generally hated by the brewers but had some use in milds where they wanted preservative effect but little hop flavour. Still, it got planted quite a bit in Mid Kent after WWI - presumably less so after this report came out!!!!<br />http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/j.2050-0416.1923.tb06658.x/pdfqqnoreply@blogger.com