tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post7317261530685763945..comments2024-03-28T13:20:29.156-07:00Comments on Shut up about Barclay Perkins: Whitbread Pale Ale in 1870Ron Pattinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-81016629561744957102010-01-12T23:38:17.136-08:002010-01-12T23:38:17.136-08:00Hi zythophile, Ron has an older post showing there...Hi zythophile, Ron has an older post showing there was discrepancy between the O.G of porter. in the brewery and at the publicans taps.<br /><br /><br />http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2009/05/watered-down-porter-and-stout.htmlOblivioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04184794716327407609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-6394104894089554932010-01-12T10:02:35.049-08:002010-01-12T10:02:35.049-08:00Kristen, contemporary commentators accused landlor...Kristen, contemporary commentators accused landlords of cutting the porter with water, even though this was a comparatively weaker beer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-61908671308939321372010-01-12T06:58:59.632-08:002010-01-12T06:58:59.632-08:00What was the real value though. the lower gravity...What was the real value though. the lower gravity beer would have been much harder to water by the landlord. The stronger one could be cut by as much as 15% without much notice. From contemporary sources, this was very much uncommon. Anyone have any data as to the types of beers this done to most?Kristen Englandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05212694853976179911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-40286974600091212292010-01-12T05:11:44.242-08:002010-01-12T05:11:44.242-08:00Okay good point, I hadn't realized that.
Gary...Okay good point, I hadn't realized that.<br /><br />GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-77585917414552935032010-01-12T05:09:45.681-08:002010-01-12T05:09:45.681-08:00Gary, the XX Xpt contained more hops (5.9 pounds p...Gary, the XX Xpt contained more hops (5.9 pounds per barrel) than the PA (5.57 pounds per barrel).Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-65544910344553075222010-01-12T04:49:26.095-08:002010-01-12T04:49:26.095-08:00Ron, at almost 20% weaker (approximately) than the...Ron, at almost 20% weaker (approximately) than the export XX ale, the pale ale is a lesser value viewed from the standpoint of alcohol content. However, its presumably higher attenuation would have reduced the gap. <br /><br />Also, would production costs not have been higher for pale ale, represented by the much greater hop bill and any storage time it got? True, the same should apply to the stout, but I gather Whitbread brewed much larger amounts of stout then. So economies of scale would have permitted keeping the price down.<br /><br />In other words I am wondering if Whitbread could have argued that for that part of the market that wanted a highly hopped beer, the pricing was not unreasonable.<br /><br />GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.com