tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post6446205512952712997..comments2024-03-28T06:20:10.699-07:00Comments on Shut up about Barclay Perkins: Seedless hopsRon Pattinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-19100765803066049282017-09-19T13:52:29.303-07:002017-09-19T13:52:29.303-07:00wow trevor, thank you for this, i was just trying ...wow trevor, thank you for this, i was just trying to research what the collate hops were like before buying some, thank you for sourcing more hop varieties for the home brewer in new zealandAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09513669668907904053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-35112632065375052862017-06-04T04:01:59.514-07:002017-06-04T04:01:59.514-07:00Trevor,
that's dead interesting. Be great to ...Trevor,<br /><br />that's dead interesting. Be great to see if they differ genetically from the modern versions.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-80676604060997373322017-06-04T02:44:31.223-07:002017-06-04T02:44:31.223-07:00Hi Ron, Thanks for turning up the info on the Cole...Hi Ron, Thanks for turning up the info on the Colegate hop. I found a hop growing wild in the Nelson district of New Zealand and after growing it for a couple of years I harvested enough cones to have it analysed. It turns out to be a Colegate. I also found a hop growing in a ghost town in Westland that has been analysed as Old Golding originally from West Kent. As New Zealand had no native hops all the original varieties planted were imported from the UK in around 1850. Those varieties were Old Golding, Fuggle, Colegate & Golding. There is more info at this link: <a href="" rel="nofollow">https://www.wildabouthops.nz/downloads.html</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02542895049543451734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-54111737858235039082010-08-23T08:07:03.826-07:002010-08-23T08:07:03.826-07:00Ron, as promised a little information on Henham...Ron, as promised a little information on Henham's and Colegate's.<br /><br /><b>H E Wright, Handybook for Brewers, 1907</b><br /><b>Early Sorts:</b> White's Early (delicate and shy cropper), Bramling (good compact cones), Amos' Early Bird (Bramling type, but earlier), Bennet's Early Seedling, Henhams's Jones' Hop, Hobbs' Early, Prolific, and Meophams. The quality is probably in the order given, the last two very inferior.<br /><b>Late varieties--Grape Hops</b> (cones appearing clustered, narrowish in proportion to the length and pointed). Colegates (long, narrow cones) are coarse, strong hops yielding heavy crops in the Weald of Kent and Susex, but not very rich in lupulin.<br /><br /><b>Clinch, English Hops, 1919</b><br /><b>Henham's Jones's Hop</b> [Early]. Attain a rather pretty golden colour when ripe, and is of a good size. Lupulin is scarce, but the flavour is fair. The bine is thin and pale in colour. This variety was raised by Mr Iden Henham, of East Peckham, Kent.<br /><b>Colegate's Hops</b> [Late]. These hops are long and narrow in form, and very late ripening. The branches are slender and the leaves deeply serrated. This variety is grown in the clay soils of Kent and Sussex. They were introduced about the year 1805 by Mr David Colegate, of Chevening, in Kent. They have almost gone out of cultivation.<br /><br /><b>H Lloyd Hind, Brewing Science and Practice, Vol 1, 1938</b><br /><b>The Colgate</b>, raised from a wild hop by Mr D. Colgate of Chevening in 1805, is a small narrow hop, square in section, with thin pale petals and a coarse flavour. It was the latest hop to ripen, frequently not being ready to pick until October, for which reason it was expensive to grow and has been practically abandoned. Really ripe samples were, however, of quite good quality.mentaldentalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15226160741245530097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-37399300838229774462010-08-17T15:27:41.336-07:002010-08-17T15:27:41.336-07:00Colgates (the usual spelling I have seen) are ment...Colgates (the usual spelling I have seen) are mentioned in a number of sources going back to the early 1800's at least.<br /><br />GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-79592430858360270252010-08-17T14:39:39.037-07:002010-08-17T14:39:39.037-07:00I don't think either of them predicted the Eng...I don't think either of them predicted the English hop industry shrinking to a tenth of its previous size, though.Rob Sterowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07870233673933087794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-11927976326393784972010-08-17T12:31:28.782-07:002010-08-17T12:31:28.782-07:00Ron, I can let you know a bit about Colegates, I t...Ron, I can let you know a bit about Colegates, I think, except I am in Sweden and my books aren't. If no one chips in I will send you some info when I get home.mentaldentalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15226160741245530097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-49768939863774725922010-08-17T02:59:09.491-07:002010-08-17T02:59:09.491-07:00I think Richard Boston in 'Beer and Skittles&#...I think Richard Boston in 'Beer and Skittles' and Christopher Hutt in 'The Death of the English Pub' both mention the distinction between the continued cultivation of the male hop plant in England and it being outlawed on the continent and predict the ban being extended here as a result of Britain joining the EU.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09310220100267028274noreply@blogger.com