tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post5466702769600287402..comments2024-03-29T07:54:08.898-07:00Comments on Shut up about Barclay Perkins: Whitbread Porter 1831 - 1840Ron Pattinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-47887680838510231262011-01-20T01:18:42.559-08:002011-01-20T01:18:42.559-08:00Martyn, good question. Mostly it's a combinati...Martyn, good question. Mostly it's a combination of the last season's hops, the season before that and sometimes also the season before that. So a beer brewed in, say, November 1836 might have hops from 1835, 1834 and 1833.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-24832652236665500542011-01-19T14:52:18.209-08:002011-01-19T14:52:18.209-08:00Incidentally,Ron, were they using mostly old hops ...Incidentally,Ron, were they using mostly old hops in those porters?Martyn Cornellhttp://zythophile.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-58980718057166440852011-01-19T14:51:14.429-08:002011-01-19T14:51:14.429-08:00To be historically accurate, though, Craig, your p...To be historically accurate, though, Craig, your pub would have to be divided into two separate rooms, the "public bar", where the beer was a little bit cheaper, and the furnishings rather rougher, and most people are drinking mild, and the "saloon bar", where everything is a little smarter, including the customers, the beer costs that bit more, and people are drinking pale ale.Martyn Cornellhttp://zythophile.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-20442827466998542412011-01-18T11:57:55.119-08:002011-01-18T11:57:55.119-08:00See, I knew I could count on you!See, I knew I could count on you!Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14129472719929268755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-2957466212576218322011-01-18T10:10:27.980-08:002011-01-18T10:10:27.980-08:00Craig, that's a really good question. And one ...Craig, that's a really good question. And one to which I, surprisingly, have a a pretty good answer.<br /><br />In London 1900 - 1910 it would have been:<br /><br />X Ale<br />Porter<br />Pale Ale<br />Burton (KK)<br />Stout<br /><br />Scummier pubs probably wouldn't have had the full set. X and porter would have been everywhere.<br /><br />In other areas, the choice would have been different. But Mild, Pale Ale and stout you would have found much everywhere.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-15173052042212667972011-01-18T08:20:52.625-08:002011-01-18T08:20:52.625-08:00Ron, a question I've been pondering, while not...Ron, a question I've been pondering, while not specifically about Porter, is: what would late 19th and early 20th century pubs have had to offer? Would they have had a full-line up of beer and ale, multiple taps of all levels of X and Ks, Porter and Stout? Were there Bitter only or Mild only or Porter only establishments? I guess the gist is, how was beer and ale offered to the public by the pub?<br /><br />I may want to open my historically accurate, albeit American, pub one day!Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14129472719929268755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-86423529751675843272011-01-18T05:14:50.721-08:002011-01-18T05:14:50.721-08:00Hearty, I'd need to look up hop prices. I thin...Hearty, I'd need to look up hop prices. I think I've got them somewhere.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-82720027282830588092011-01-18T01:54:27.011-08:002011-01-18T01:54:27.011-08:00The hop usage seems to evolve dramatically too.
I...The hop usage seems to evolve dramatically too.<br /><br />Is this just trend or necessity?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17852488639948144328noreply@blogger.com