tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post4286605452002845613..comments2024-03-28T13:20:29.156-07:00Comments on Shut up about Barclay Perkins: Guinness Porter IIRon Pattinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-38598931821358406382007-12-21T11:37:00.000-08:002007-12-21T11:37:00.000-08:00There seems to have been a general preference in r...There seems to have been a general preference in regions where heavy manual labour was the norm for low-gravity, often dark "thirst quenchers", so porter for the Belfast shipworkers and the Dublin railway workers, mild for South Wales miners, and so on. I wouldn't be surprised to find similar trends in the Belgian coal fields, the Ruhr steel works and so on. Of course, once the heavy industry disappeared, the demand for that style of beer disappeared as well ...Zythophilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07169961035352165436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-16769162946479804252007-12-20T07:15:00.000-08:002007-12-20T07:15:00.000-08:00On Northern Ireland and porter, it's presumably re...On Northern Ireland and porter, it's presumably related to Zythophile's observation of porter being an urban drink. The north was urbanised and industrialised in way the south, apart from Dublin, wasn't. Why this preference should exist I haven't a notion. I do know that my immediate ancestors, from rural mid and south Tyrone, were bottled stout drinkers to a man (and woman, in several cases).The Beer Nuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-91491554523800772922007-12-20T04:30:00.000-08:002007-12-20T04:30:00.000-08:00Any explanation why Porter lasted longest in North...Any explanation why Porter lasted longest in Northern Ireland? I'm intrigued by that.<BR/><BR/>I take your point about Ireland being behind fashion, but it seems that the numbers show something more complex. The earliest figures show Guinness producing more Stout than Porter. This wasn't the case with London brewers: Porter outsold Stout until the early 1900's, when Porter was on its last legs.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-81276521288567148852007-12-20T04:14:00.000-08:002007-12-20T04:14:00.000-08:00I'd say only because the stuff was still selling i...I'd say only because the stuff was still selling in large quantities in Ireland, because Ireland, as usual, was behind in fashion (we have some great Victorian "Georgian" architecture, and plenty of "Victorian" Edwardian buildings as well). If they had the output, and there was enough of an export market for it, then it makes sense for them to "concentrate" on it. Before long the product becomes especially closely associated with that particular brewery, much like Guinness and stout are today.The Beer Nuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.com