tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post2462689530567190467..comments2024-03-28T06:20:10.699-07:00Comments on Shut up about Barclay Perkins: Barclay Perkins sales by beer type 1956Ron Pattinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-61920773797331839832010-03-05T11:10:33.188-08:002010-03-05T11:10:33.188-08:00One of the (India ale) Hodgson's in the 1800&#...One of the (India ale) Hodgson's in the 1800's was nicknamed Brown Stout, the gentleman who was a MP. (This may sound like apples and oranges but the beer consumer, then as now, was never very discriminating in the manner of beer terminology). The term came apparently from the scion's size and complexion.<br /><br />GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-54892474262610771472010-03-05T07:47:59.956-08:002010-03-05T07:47:59.956-08:00I'm assuming all the lager was bottled too. 19...I'm assuming all the lager was bottled too. 1956 sounds a bit early for keg founts and cask-conditioned lager is surely a recent innovation in Britain.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09310220100267028274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-68562324661249238292010-03-05T06:59:15.352-08:002010-03-05T06:59:15.352-08:00The term "Brown Stout" lived on for a wh...The term "Brown Stout" lived on for a while in the USA as well; when the Ballantine brewery in Newark NJ re-opened after prohibition under new ownership, it's new Scottish brewmaster added a "Brown Stout" to Ballantine's range. Like a couple of the brewery's other offerings, this one was brewed to a fairly hefty strength and was cellared in wooden tanks for a full year prior to bottling.The Professornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-73474239105117221282010-03-05T03:23:11.478-08:002010-03-05T03:23:11.478-08:00Zythophile, the two versions of KK were not identi...Zythophile, the two versions of KK were not identical. The bottling version was a good bit stronger.<br /><br />The term Brown Stout lingered on a long time in London. Oddly, Holt's still have a beer called Brown Stout.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5445569787371915337.post-46026543388842894202010-03-05T02:38:14.630-08:002010-03-05T02:38:14.630-08:00Interesting that they should still call it IBS for...Interesting that they should still call it IBS for Imperial Brown Stout when no one had made a pale stout for more than a century. And I'm assuming that KK (T) is the "trade" ie draught for pubs version, while KK (B) is the bottled version - with the same beer apparently known as Burton on draught and Old in bottles, confirming Campbell's statement that, in London, at least, Old and Burton were synonyms.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com